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		<title>by: ausblog</title>
		<link>http://unclebob.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/on-abortion/#comment-29</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:51:51 +0100</pubDate>
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		<title>by: ausblog</title>
		<link>http://unclebob.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/on-abortion/#comment-26</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 03:20:30 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Bob,  I understand what your saying. I think abortion is a crime against humanity. I cant believe the figures I've found. Motherly instinct seems to be forgotten. Mothers are, I thought, supposed to be fiercely protective of their offspring. Not any more. Some have even said that abortion was their prefered choice over birth control due to, they say less side effects and comparable cost.I am fast losing faith in human nature.
I would like to leave some figures and thoughts with you for any passing Pro-choicers to concider.......



World estimations of the number of terminations carried out each year is somewhere between 20 and 88 million.

3,500 per day / 1.3 million per year in America alone. 

50% of that 1.3 million claimed failed birth control was to blame. 

A further 48% had failed to use any birth control at all. 

And 2% had medical reasons. 

That means a stagering 98% may have been avoided had an effective birth control been used.



  
  I am a pro-lifer who has no religious convictions at all . I didn't need the fear of god or anything else to come to my decision, just a good sense of what is right and wrong.
You see we were all once a fetus.  Is it beyond the realm of possibilities that when your mother first learned she was carrying you, she may have considered her options? What if she had decided to terminate?  Would that have been OK?
You would not exist, if you have children they would not exist, and your (husband or wife) would be married to someone else. You would have been deprived of all your experiences and memories.  In this day and age with terminations being so readily available and so many being carried out, if you make it to full term
you can consider yourself lucky.  Lucky you had a mother that made the choice of life for you. Don't you think they all deserve the same basic human right,   LIFE?
I'm all for contraception, prevention is certainly better than termination.
Did you know you can get an implant that is safe, 99.9% effective, and lasts for three years? Just think girls not even a show for three years, wouldn't that be great? I think too many people rely too heavily on the last option (abortion), I think if abortions weren't so readily available people would manage their reproductive system far better resulting in a fraction of the number of unwanted pregnancies.
World wide there are over 50 MILLION aborted pregnancies each year. In America 3,500 terminations carried out every day, that's over 1.3 million every year, 50% of all cases claimed that birth control had been used, 48% admitted they took no precaution, and 2% had a medical reason. That's a staggering 98% that may have been prevented had an effective birth control been used. Don't get me wrong, I suspect the percentages in Australia would be much the same.
Just a lot of unnecessary killing.

At the point of conception is when life began for you. This was the start of your existence. Your own personal big bang. Three weeks after conception heart started to beat. First brain waves recorded at six weeks after conception. Seen sucking thumb at seven weeks after conception.

I am convinced that in the not too distant future, people will look back at many of the practices of today with disbelief and horror.
   


Want to know how to find humanity-?

True humanity can only be achieved, by concidering others/ caring about others, as much as, if not more than yourself.

Until we do we are no more than an uncivilisation, with all the uncivilised things that we do...



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bob,  I understand what your saying. I think abortion is a crime against humanity. I cant believe the figures I&#8217;ve found. Motherly instinct seems to be forgotten. Mothers are, I thought, supposed to be fiercely protective of their offspring. Not any more. Some have even said that abortion was their prefered choice over birth control due to, they say less side effects and comparable cost.I am fast losing faith in human nature.<br />
I would like to leave some figures and thoughts with you for any passing Pro-choicers to concider&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
	<p>World estimations of the number of terminations carried out each year is somewhere between 20 and 88 million.</p>
	<p>3,500 per day / 1.3 million per year in America alone. </p>
	<p>50% of that 1.3 million claimed failed birth control was to blame. </p>
	<p>A further 48% had failed to use any birth control at all. </p>
	<p>And 2% had medical reasons. </p>
	<p>That means a stagering 98% may have been avoided had an effective birth control been used.</p>
	<p>  I am a pro-lifer who has no religious convictions at all . I didn&#8217;t need the fear of god or anything else to come to my decision, just a good sense of what is right and wrong.<br />
You see we were all once a fetus.  Is it beyond the realm of possibilities that when your mother first learned she was carrying you, she may have considered her options? What if she had decided to terminate?  Would that have been OK?<br />
You would not exist, if you have children they would not exist, and your (husband or wife) would be married to someone else. You would have been deprived of all your experiences and memories.  In this day and age with terminations being so readily available and so many being carried out, if you make it to full term<br />
you can consider yourself lucky.  Lucky you had a mother that made the choice of life for you. Don&#8217;t you think they all deserve the same basic human right,   LIFE?<br />
I&#8217;m all for contraception, prevention is certainly better than termination.<br />
Did you know you can get an implant that is safe, 99.9% effective, and lasts for three years? Just think girls not even a show for three years, wouldn&#8217;t that be great? I think too many people rely too heavily on the last option (abortion), I think if abortions weren&#8217;t so readily available people would manage their reproductive system far better resulting in a fraction of the number of unwanted pregnancies.<br />
World wide there are over 50 MILLION aborted pregnancies each year. In America 3,500 terminations carried out every day, that&#8217;s over 1.3 million every year, 50% of all cases claimed that birth control had been used, 48% admitted they took no precaution, and 2% had a medical reason. That&#8217;s a staggering 98% that may have been prevented had an effective birth control been used. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I suspect the percentages in Australia would be much the same.<br />
Just a lot of unnecessary killing.</p>
	<p>At the point of conception is when life began for you. This was the start of your existence. Your own personal big bang. Three weeks after conception heart started to beat. First brain waves recorded at six weeks after conception. Seen sucking thumb at seven weeks after conception.</p>
	<p>I am convinced that in the not too distant future, people will look back at many of the practices of today with disbelief and horror.</p>
	<p>Want to know how to find humanity-?</p>
	<p>True humanity can only be achieved, by concidering others/ caring about others, as much as, if not more than yourself.</p>
	<p>Until we do we are no more than an uncivilisation, with all the uncivilised things that we do&#8230;
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		<title>by: human i tarian</title>
		<link>http://unclebob.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/on-abortion/#comment-25</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:07:35 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Very interesting statements here, Bob. Let's try to look at some of the more interesting ones.

1. Bob said, &quot;I believe they [the man and woman conceiving the child] are entering into a contract with themselves, the unborn child, and society.&quot;

   How does society come into this contract? Does society guarantee anything for the child? If anything were to happen to the parents, will society take care of the child just like the parents would have?

2. Bob says, &quot;My argument is based solely on the ethical view that destroying a life should require significant justification, and should never be a unilateral decision.&quot; 

   How does this square with your views on US invasion of Iraq which led to the deaths of thousands of civilians who were &quot;unilaterally&quot; killed? Or the hundreds of civilians killed by Israel's recent humiliation in Lebanon? Or do you believe that Iraqis and Lebanese are not worthy of your time?

3. Bob says, &quot;Should a change in life circumstances be considered?&quot;

One of the responsibilities of any parent who gives birth to a child is to try their best to provide a high quality of life for their child. Any circumstance that affects this ability, if discovered in the first trimester or so of pregnancy, is reasonable grounds for considering abortion. A pending divorce does seem a reasonable justification for abortion. 

An unwanted child has a very good likelihood of becoming an undesirable member of society. If the parents cannot guarantee that the child is brought up reasonably well, then it is better for the child to have been aborted.


But overall, this was a reasonably balanced account that I can respect while disagreeing with some points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Very interesting statements here, Bob. Let&#8217;s try to look at some of the more interesting ones.</p>
	<p>1. Bob said, &#8220;I believe they [the man and woman conceiving the child] are entering into a contract with themselves, the unborn child, and society.&#8221;</p>
	<p>   How does society come into this contract? Does society guarantee anything for the child? If anything were to happen to the parents, will society take care of the child just like the parents would have?</p>
	<p>2. Bob says, &#8220;My argument is based solely on the ethical view that destroying a life should require significant justification, and should never be a unilateral decision.&#8221; </p>
	<p>   How does this square with your views on US invasion of Iraq which led to the deaths of thousands of civilians who were &#8220;unilaterally&#8221; killed? Or the hundreds of civilians killed by Israel&#8217;s recent humiliation in Lebanon? Or do you believe that Iraqis and Lebanese are not worthy of your time?</p>
	<p>3. Bob says, &#8220;Should a change in life circumstances be considered?&#8221;</p>
	<p>One of the responsibilities of any parent who gives birth to a child is to try their best to provide a high quality of life for their child. Any circumstance that affects this ability, if discovered in the first trimester or so of pregnancy, is reasonable grounds for considering abortion. A pending divorce does seem a reasonable justification for abortion. </p>
	<p>An unwanted child has a very good likelihood of becoming an undesirable member of society. If the parents cannot guarantee that the child is brought up reasonably well, then it is better for the child to have been aborted.</p>
	<p>But overall, this was a reasonably balanced account that I can respect while disagreeing with some points.
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